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Title: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Duke64 on April 06, 2015, 06:19:42 PM
My favorite Turok is still Dinosaur Hunter I really liked the Jungle/Temple atmosphere this game had and I liked the freedom of going anywhere you wish pretty much, though it isn't like today's "open world" games it carries a similar feeling at times. The weapons are unforgettable they do not make weapons like these anymore. Just taking an adventure through jungles, caves, and temples fighting off enemies and dinosaurs was so much fun to me. But this is kind of hard for me since I actually enjoy all of them in different ways. You don't want to get me started on the paragraphs I could say for all of them.

Dinosaur Hunter is my choice what is yours?
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite ?
Post by: Ry on April 07, 2015, 04:17:09 AM
My favourite would have to be Turok 2, but the Nintendo 64 version, simply for Monkey Frag Tag. ;D
It also has mutliplayer with humans, bots or both, though after playing Turok 2 the PC version, I prefer to play against humans any day over bots.

I like the multiplayer levels on the PC version more than the Nintendo 64 version though. Lucky on voting Turok 2, as my vote goes to both versions. :P ;D


I enjoyed the first Turok, but I liked the new enemies and gore of single player of Turok 2 more. Blowing holes through the enemy and blowing heads off. It still had the basics of dinosaurs too that the first Turok game had to offer.
I like the scenery of the first Turok game as much as the second though, but enjoyed the exploration of the first a whole lot more, as it was the first shooting game I had seen that offered that type of environment to play in with the jungle theme.


As much as I'd like to put my vote towards Turok: Rage Wars, I felt the Nintendo 64 of Turok 2 offered more with single player and multiplayer with humans, bots or both.

Though I'm happy for the multiplayer levels on the PC version, I wish they included Monkey Frag Tag to it. :(

I hope someone one day makes a mod for Rage Wars for the PC. I think that would do very well in today's gaming community. :) Why didn't they make it for the PC. D: With games like Unreal Tournament, etc, you'd have thought it would've been made for the PC.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite ?
Post by: Adon on April 07, 2015, 02:25:07 PM
I will have to go with Turok 2 because it had a lot to do with Adon being in it she was so cool. I really liked being a female in MP against my brothers. Plus it just felt so original loved the temples and atmospheres also. But Turok 3 is almost my favorite since you could be the girl in SP. From what I know this is one of the first successful fps shooters that added a female as a main character. Now I am not saying I like them just because it had females I am not Anita but as a girl playing with my brothers I thought it was awesome being able to be Adon.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite ?
Post by: Duke64 on April 08, 2015, 11:32:12 PM
Yeah Turok 2 is a legend in my opinion and its pretty consistent originally Turok 2 was going to be SP only like Turok 1. But with the release of some MP fps games on N64 (mainly GoldnenEye) they needed to compete and they sure did. Not to mention it was released pretty quickly after Dinosaur Hunter pretty much a year and a few months after. Turok is one of the few games that stayed pretty consistent in the releasing category even though there were bumps in the road, until now at least.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite ?
Post by: Dinomite on April 09, 2015, 02:59:30 PM
I May sound stupid over here, but i like turok evolution alot. I Dont know if its my favourite but im safely going to vote for it anyway.  :)
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite ?
Post by: Turok Fireseed on April 09, 2015, 07:40:48 PM
Out of all Turok games, Turok 3: Shadow of Oblivion is still my favorite to this day. It offered two playable characters and by extension, two different ways to play the game. By unlocking a secret in the game, you can use all the weapons and upgrades. I also love the game's story, and i don't know why anyone has tried to continue the series from that point. It was such a good cliffhanger that lead to something important, but for now we may never know.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Dinomite on April 10, 2015, 09:28:19 AM
I Like your opinion. Thanks for posting!
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Rok on April 15, 2015, 09:11:17 AM
Im going to go with Turok Dinosaur Hunter also because it is the original the birth of Turok gaming and its a bad ass game for its time. The weapons the enemies the open like worlds this game is awesome. I still think it is one of the hardest sp games made. The free ability to go as you please makes it so you miss level keys and have to go back searching for them. I remember having to find one key and it took me days lol . Anyway I liked other Turok games almost just as much but the original gets my vote.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Jinroh on April 15, 2015, 09:34:00 AM
Turok 2, man that game.

I wasn't allowed to get it at the time. I was in middle school and had those kinda parents, but I drooled over it in Nintendo Power, and would play it on the N64 kiosk they had at Sears.

At the school book fair or whatever too, I would buy the chapter books. Those were awesome! :D Few years later I finally bought it, and nowadays it's still the one I play most, though I like the rest as well. Turok 3 is especially cool as it's different, and very atmospheric.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Dinomite on April 16, 2015, 09:17:42 AM
Cool story dude! Sounds like a good childhood.  8)
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Drahsid on May 31, 2015, 02:08:02 AM
I prefer T2 the most, but do appreciate T1's more arcade styled action.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Dinomite on May 31, 2015, 03:14:43 AM
Kinda like that serious sam is more arcadier than duke.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Drahsid on May 31, 2015, 11:17:29 AM
Kinda like that serious sam is more arcadier than duke.
Exactly.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Dinomite on May 31, 2015, 01:55:41 PM
Hmm.  :)
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: MaxMan on July 10, 2015, 09:48:02 AM
This is a tough question I liked all of them pretty much xD
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: vis on July 10, 2015, 12:33:30 PM
..rage wars...judging by multi...Turok 2 SoE by story, pc ver and by co-op mode in n64 ver xDDDDD
Imaginary favorite: hacked T2 on pc, added co-op, more mp mods...Hehehe win for all, then! I enjoying in T2 MP very much! Especially when rounds are intensive and adrenaline rewording experience with good players!
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Spartan on July 12, 2015, 09:25:56 PM
Its hard to say but Im between Seeds of Evil and Evolution
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Komenja on August 28, 2015, 01:38:24 AM
Seeds of Evil was my introduction to the series, but the original Dinosaur Hunter is by far my favorite. Movement and combat are more fast-paced than the sequels,  I feel the level design was generally better, and the soundtrack is badass and atmospheric. Plus most of it's themes and enemies, like the Bionosaurs, Campaigner and Longhunter, were pulled straight from Valiant's Dinosaur Hunter comics, which is my favorite incarnation of the character. It also had the most dinosaur variety out of the N64 games, succeeded only be Evolution and maybe Turok 2008.

Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Dinomite on August 28, 2015, 12:52:59 PM
Seeds of Evil was my introduction to the series, but the original Dinosaur Hunter is by far my favorite. Movement and combat are more fast-paced than the sequels,  I feel the level design was generally better, and the soundtrack is badass and atmospheric. Plus most of it's themes and enemies, like the Bionosaurs, Campaigner and Longhunter, were pulled straight from Valiant's Dinosaur Hunter comics, which is my favorite incarnation of the character. It also had the most dinosaur variety out of the N64 games, succeeded only be Evolution and maybe Turok 2008.
I Love your icon dude. Primal Rage!
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Komenja on August 29, 2015, 09:32:36 AM
I Love your icon dude. Primal Rage!

Thanks! Dino games all the way, man.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Jay Doomed on September 16, 2015, 01:52:16 PM
I am going to go with T1 this game is the start of it all and is amazing. I love the atmosphere and how the game is laid out. The hub ruins is a special place. This was one of the first games I played ever.

But on another note I pretty much like them all tbh.  8)
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: BEWAREOBLIVIONISATHAND on September 23, 2015, 09:34:34 AM
I loved all of them accept for Turok 08 it just didn't feel Turoky enough for me and that and the t-rex at the end is ridiculously hard on hard mode. I wish there was a I love all Turok games button cause I would have choose that one. 8)
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Dinomite on September 23, 2015, 12:47:24 PM
I loved all of them accept for Turok 08 it just didn't feel Turoky enough for me and that and the t-rex at the end is ridiculously hard on hard mode. I wish there was a I love all Turok games button cause I would have choose that one. 8)
Exactly. Turok 08 was more like Gears of war: Dino wars.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Adon on September 23, 2015, 12:56:54 PM
If we had an "all Turok" option I am sure that one would lead the polls, but it defeats the purpose of seeing which Turok did you enjoy the very most. I know its a tough question though hehe. Cool name btw you cheat coder :P
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Xeno Kai on September 25, 2015, 11:35:18 AM
Turok 1 is my favorite easily but I agree I love them all !
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Snowball on September 30, 2015, 04:49:40 PM
my favorite is turok 2 becose i played it before turok 1 and becose it didn't have those platforming segments  :D and was turok 08 the one where you could oneshot kill dinosaurs with knife?
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Cyriu on November 19, 2015, 02:37:10 AM
Turok: Dinosaur Hunter is still my fav. The smooth, arcade-like gameplay alongside the mystical/otherworldly atmosphere that it have with it's heavy fog, floating platforms, occasional anti-gravity water, random portals, and respawning beaming enemies give it this very unique charm that was simply not captured again in the series. The minimal slowdown (aside some of the final areas) is a bonus.

Turok 3 is easily my second fav. The fact that you can use a female Turok is one of it's strong points, but I also love the arcade-like feel to it and overall more streamlined design that makes it very easy to pick up & play. The story is great and I love the cliffhanger, and Oblivion and it's Flesh Eater horde are such awesome villains. I also liked the areas that you explore, each one have a very different atmosphere to them but all ultimately feel melancholic, like if a unknown force was pulling the strings behind everything (guess why it is called Shadow of Oblivion). I only wish that this game was also getting a HD remaster, I think it deserves it.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite ?
Post by: Cyriu on November 19, 2015, 02:58:22 AM
I May sound stupid over here, but i like turok evolution alot. I Dont know if its my favourite but im safely going to vote for it anyway.  :)

I think that Turok: Evolution is highly underrated. Not the best fps at the time but it did have some cool weapons, some good gore, very awesome jungle environments, and overall solid gameplay. Plus the music is fantastic. 

Definitely better than Turok (2008).
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite ?
Post by: Dinomite on November 19, 2015, 11:44:25 AM
I May sound stupid over here, but i like turok evolution alot. I Dont know if its my favourite but im safely going to vote for it anyway.  :)

I think that Turok: Evolution is highly underrated. Not the best fps at the time but it did have some cool weapons, some good gore, very awesome jungle environments, and overall solid gameplay. Plus the music is fantastic. 

Definitely better than Turok (2008).
Turok 2008 sucks imo anyways. Not entirely but still. Its a kinda good FPS but not a good Turok. Well maybe not even a good FPS but you get the point. Turok 2008 is a love-it or hate-it thing.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Nfsfan83 on November 21, 2015, 06:27:40 AM
My vote goes to Turok: Dinosaur Hunter one and only good choice. Hard hunting in tough world :D Nothing need more for fun.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Dinomite on November 21, 2015, 07:28:40 AM
My vote goes to Turok: Dinosaur Hunter one and only good choice. Hard hunting in tough world :D Nothing need more for fun.
Turok: Dinosaur Hunter is the second easiest Turok next to Turok 2.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Nfsfan83 on November 21, 2015, 08:52:31 AM
My vote goes to Turok: Dinosaur Hunter one and only good choice. Hard hunting in tough world :D Nothing need more for fun.
Turok: Dinosaur Hunter is the second easiest Turok next to Turok 2.

I mean not hard to play, but Jungle feeling is hard for hunting for Turok  ;)
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Rok on November 21, 2015, 02:25:55 PM
Looks like Turok 1 is taking the cake so far :) Of course we love them all and Dinomite you don't sound dumb for liking Evolution its a great game and you get to be Tal'Set again. Evolution is not missing the Turok magic in it. Only downfall of that imo is those flying parts... So if Stinkee finishes more work someone should replace those levels or make them walkable. Take the flying segments out except maybe one of them :)
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Dinomite on November 21, 2015, 04:21:49 PM
Looks like Turok 1 is taking the cake so far :) Of course we love them all and Dinomite you don't sound dumb for liking Evolution its a great game and you get to be Tal'Set again. Evolution is not missing the Turok magic in it. Only downfall of that imo is those flying parts... So if Stinkee finishes more work someone should replace those levels or make them walkable. Take the flying segments out except maybe one of them :)
Thanks. Also, as much as i dont like the flying parts, removing them would most likely remove like 50 minutes of gameplay or more.  :( Decisions decisions...
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite ?
Post by: Cyriu on November 26, 2015, 09:10:26 AM
I May sound stupid over here, but i like turok evolution alot. I Dont know if its my favourite but im safely going to vote for it anyway.  :)

I think that Turok: Evolution is highly underrated. Not the best fps at the time but it did have some cool weapons, some good gore, very awesome jungle environments, and overall solid gameplay. Plus the music is fantastic. 

Definitely better than Turok (2008).
Turok 2008 sucks imo anyways. Not entirely but still. Its a goof FPS but not a good Turok. Well maybe not even a good FPS but you get the point. Turok 2008 is a love-it or hate-it thing.

I love all N64 Turok games and Evolution, each for different reasons. On the other hand, Turok (2008) is a game that just bothers me and sends me into a angry rant everytime I talk about it. While the story and characters were good, the only one thing that I like about this game is the dinosaurs, because to Propaganda's credit they fantastically done. But the dinosaurs only make me more mad because it's like seeing one element of what could have been part of a much better experience and a actual Turok game. Argh...
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite ?
Post by: Dinomite on November 26, 2015, 11:44:17 AM
I May sound stupid over here, but i like turok evolution alot. I Dont know if its my favourite but im safely going to vote for it anyway.  :)

I think that Turok: Evolution is highly underrated. Not the best fps at the time but it did have some cool weapons, some good gore, very awesome jungle environments, and overall solid gameplay. Plus the music is fantastic. 

Definitely better than Turok (2008).
Turok 2008 sucks imo anyways. Not entirely but still. Its a goof FPS but not a good Turok. Well maybe not even a good FPS but you get the point. Turok 2008 is a love-it or hate-it thing.

I love all N64 Turok games and Evolution, each for different reasons. On the other hand, Turok (2008) is a game that just bothers me and sends me into a angry rant everytime I talk about it. While the story and characters were good, the only one thing that I like about this game is the dinosaurs, because to Propaganda's credit they fantastically done. But the dinosaurs only make me more mad because it's like seeing one element of what could have been part of a much better experience and a actual Turok game. Argh...
Exactly. Except that the story was pretty bad and would work better in a stallone movie than a friggin turok game.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Mon-Ark on December 21, 2015, 12:41:27 PM
My vote goes to the original, just because its mroe like a classic FPS like doom. T3 takes second place


I agree, evolution wasnt as bad as I expected (but I sure looked badas far a non environment models goes). If it wasnt for the second half of the game being a poor-mans starfox and instead being regular gameplay, it would had been much better.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: MurderIsRelevant on June 18, 2016, 08:17:56 PM
Is the vote over? I would vote, but don't know how.

I unashamedly admit to liking the 2008 Turok the most.

Then the original, and then Seeds of Evil.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Duke64 on June 18, 2016, 11:10:33 PM
Well if you can't see an option to vote you must of chosen one already. But you know I was thinking about it and its tough to just say one is your favorite. So I have made it so you are able to "remove vote". Then if you do that you can choose a different one. This gives us a chance to be able to change it. This question is a tough one so being able to change I don't mind at all.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Dinomite on November 04, 2016, 04:30:28 AM
Czekolada is best
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: MurderIsRelevant on November 16, 2016, 07:41:44 PM
My favorite is the Turok 2008 reboot. I just really enjoy how they tried to make a story out of it, and how they added elements from things such as Gears of War and Star Trek (Terraforming). And how they stayed true to the  Dinosaur Hunter moniker. And what I mean by that is the dinosaurs. The original NES games had more than dinosaurs, they had fantastical monsters. That is interesting, but as a fan of the original comic series, I just liked the dinosaurs.

Granted, later in the original comic series there were such things as Aliens, and Monsters, but the series was on point with the dinosaurs.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Nato on December 23, 2016, 01:06:06 PM
Turok Dinosaur Hunter is my favourite.
Running around the jungle with a hunting knife, slashing jerks necks to a tribal beat is great fun. The shotgun is Turok DH has the 2nd best in FPS games. (Doom's shotty being the king)

Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Manhs on March 24, 2017, 09:34:23 AM
I liked a lot the atmosphere of Turok 1 but the level desig of Turok 2 was so cool and fun to fight with the enemies, i think, i will go with T2.
But there was awesome stuff in T1 like the auto-shotgun or the fight with the T-Rex (need more T-rex battle!  ;D ) they are so scaring  :o
Turok 2 then Turok 1, i haven't played the others.

I think, i will try Turok 3 ^^
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Dinomite on March 24, 2017, 01:37:48 PM
The original NES games had more than dinosaurs, they had fantastical monsters. That is interesting, but as a fan of the original comic series, I just liked the dinosaurs.
What the fuck?
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Old One Eye on March 24, 2017, 02:59:12 PM
I've chosen Turok 2 as my favourite simply because that's the one I've put most hours into.  I don't know how much of my life I've thrown into that game but it's a lot!

The first game is super cool and I love it as much as SoE but I just haven't spent as much time with it.

I'm ashamed to say that I've never completed Shadow of Oblivion (so please don't spoil the ending!).  I got it at the end of my time with the N64 which I then traded in to get my 'Cube and then eagerly awaited Evolution. 

Evolution was fun enough but I must admit I was a little underwhelmed...  I suppose, at the time, I just presumed that it would push the GameCube as hard as the first 3 games pushed the N64.  And those bloody loading times... Grrrr!  I also really, really missed the wobbly camera when Turok climbed things.  In the earlier games Turok felt like he had real heft and weight behind him.  The GameCube game just didn't have that weighty movement.  Evolution has a really lovely soundtrack though.  I love it and still listen to it on a regular basis. 

The Game Boy (Advance) games were just too hard for their own good.  It's a shame because I think there was a lot of potential for a great 2D series of Turok games.  GBA Evolution isn't too bad though.  Again, the music is great.

Turok '08... Well, I don't really count it as much of a Turok game.  It's just too generic and feels like a me-too kinda game.  Even Turok's haircut screams Gears of War.  Why couldn't Turok look like bloody Turok!?  Disappointment aside, I suppose the game's okay but as has already been mentioned it's just not a good Turok game...
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Dinomite on March 24, 2017, 07:11:21 PM
I've chosen Turok 2 as my favourite simply because that's the one I've put most hours into.  I don't know how much of my life I've thrown into that game but it's a lot!

The first game is super cool and I love it as much as SoE but I just haven't spent as much time with it.

I'm ashamed to say that I've never completed Shadow of Oblivion (so please don't spoil the ending!).  I got it at the end of my time with the N64 which I then traded in to get my 'Cube and then eagerly awaited Evolution. 

Evolution was fun enough but I must admit I was a little underwhelmed...  I suppose, at the time, I just presumed that it would push the GameCube as hard as the first 3 games pushed the N64.  And those bloody loading times... Grrrr!  I also really, really missed the wobbly camera when Turok climbed things.  In the earlier games Turok felt like he had real heft and weight behind him.  The GameCube game just didn't have that weighty movement.  Evolution has a really lovely soundtrack though.  I love it and still listen to it on a regular basis. 

The Game Boy (Advance) games were just too hard for their own good.  It's a shame because I think there was a lot of potential for a great 2D series of Turok games.  GBA Evolution isn't too bad though.  Again, the music is great.

Turok '08... Well, I don't really count it as much of a Turok game.  It's just too generic and feels like a me-too kinda game.  Even Turok's haircut screams Gears of War.  Why couldn't Turok look like bloody Turok!?  Disappointment aside, I suppose the game's okay but as has already been mentioned it's just not a good Turok game...
Turok 2008 aint Turok, man...
Turok Evolution removed the shaky stuff because half the players puked up on their N64 and i am not kidding, people really got sick especially from the Turok 2 Knive hahahaha
The Game Boy games were okay at best, Turok Evolution GBA was a fun run and gun nonetheless. It doesnt help that all of the Game Boy ones except Evolution were made by one guy and some composers / graphic designers.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Joseph Turok on May 30, 2017, 09:48:51 PM
It was a difficult choice but I will be with Turok 1 simply because because of him that I became obsessed with turok, a fps with an Indian as protagonist facing dinosaurs in a forest is sensational. Turok 2 has more variety and improvements over the first but my vote goes to Dinosaur Hunter.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Dinomite on July 18, 2017, 12:32:16 AM
It was a difficult choice but I will be with Turok 1 simply because because of him that I became obsessed with turok, a fps with an Indian as protagonist facing dinosaurs in a forest is sensational. Turok 2 has more variety and improvements over the first but my vote goes to Dinosaur Hunter.
You alive?
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Manhs on November 28, 2017, 10:43:30 PM
Should we make a topic-poll for the gb games since it's not the same kind of games than the FPS games?
I play with Turok 2 (i have finished T1) Game boy and i think I prefer T1 gb, i wanted know the thoughts of the other people on those games  :)
(not sure if Dinomite received my message for this poll, i see nothing in the message sent  :o )
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Dinomite on November 29, 2017, 01:04:54 AM
I received it LMAO
Of course you can make the thread. :o :)
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Reienkyo Mac Perpis on January 21, 2018, 05:17:00 PM
First place :turok:
Second place :campaigner: :primagen:
And the rest of Turoks in third place.
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Akropolis24 on October 24, 2018, 08:14:10 AM
Hello all !

Actually i never played it. So witch should i try first?


Thanks !
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Dinomite on October 25, 2018, 02:08:13 AM
Hello all !

Actually i never played it. So witch should i try first?


Thanks !
Turok Evolution or Turok Dinosaur Hunter
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: The GFPes on January 15, 2019, 11:36:42 PM
I feel insulted that no one votes for Rage Wars. :primagen:
Title: Re: What Turok is your favorite? (poll)
Post by: Alexander09138 on January 16, 2019, 01:39:25 AM
Turok Evolution maybe because I'm blinded by nostalgia. It was my first rated M game as a kid. Have good memories of turning on the big head cheat and turning off the gore when my parents were around.  :turok: